Posts by Latin assassin from Manhattan

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Is The WTS A Masonic Organization?

is it possible that the wts comes out with 'new light' in order to hide a secret truth within the higher ranks of its organization?

Latin assassin from Manhattan

I asked because I know that the current site of the WTS headquarters was formerly a Masonic Hall.

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What is PERFECTION?

by Black Man in

we were always taught that in the new world mankind would reach perfection (clean thoughts, ultimate health, perfect food).

my thing is that there is no such thing as perfection.

life wasn't perfect, even at the beginning.

Is The WTS A Masonic Organization?

by Latin assassin from Manhattan in

is it possible that the wts comes out with 'new light' in order to hide a secret truth within the higher ranks of its organization?

Latin assassin from Manhattan

Is it possible that the WTS comes out with 'new light' in order to hide a secret truth within the higher ranks of its organization?

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I got a Professional Opinion of 'Great Teacher' book.

by lisaBObeesa in

(i did put this post on the other thread, but it is so far back on the thread i thought i would post it on it's own, too.

i showed page 170 and 171 of this book to a therapist i know to get her opinion.

i did not ask if i could quote her on the internet, so i will not give her name.

Latin assassin from Manhattan

How can I get a scanned copy of the GT book?

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Vicki Boer transcript in Word and Scans New GT Book in Spanish

by blondie in

the vicki boer decision has been typed into "word" format for easier viewing for those that may not have .pdf capability.

also we now have scans of the new great teacher book in spanish thank to our latino brothers and sisters.

be looked at by clicking the links on the home page in the column to the left.. .

Latin assassin from Manhattan

How do I get the GT book? What homepage? Please help, thanks!

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How long did it take for you to realize it wasn't the truth?

by freedom96 in

jw
friends

so many of us, so many reasons we left or were kicked out.

from that point, how long did it take for you to not feel guilty about things and realize that the wts is not the "truth" as they always claim and that they have no say in whatever happens to us later.. for me, it was a slow fade.

not so much because i was determind to leave it; it was basically laziness in that regard.

Latin assassin from Manhattan

Hey Inq,

What do you mean by this statement? I don't understand what this means, sounds interesting.

I felt guilt/fear before I clicked the link (European Commission of Human Rights), after I clicked the link, It wasn't guilt that I was feeling. I was angry/upset.

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The Incredible Hulk

by peacefulpete in

whose imagination is not stirred by the idea of having superhuman strength?

stories like the hulk delighted me as a boy and still excite me today.

(cheesy computer animation aside) .

Latin assassin from Manhattan

The Power of Myth: Lessons from Joseph Campbell

Joseph Campbell made a career of examining the myths of the world and how they are all connected by similar themes. The more I read the Old Testament, the more I start to believe that these stories are no different than those of Greek mythology.

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Class Distinction Within The JW Community?

by Latin assassin from Manhattan in

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has anyone noticed that jws who appear to be higher up on the 'socio-economic' ladder get special treatment at the kh?

no matter how many khs i've visited, i've noticed that jws who are not well off socially/financially/physically are treated with less respect/dignity than those with a business of their own, or just a higher quality of life.

i've been to many 'gatherings' where jws filter themselves out according to race or socio-economic standing.

Latin assassin from Manhattan

Has anyone noticed that JWs who appear to be higher up on the 'socio-economic' ladder get special treatment at the KH?

No matter how many KHs I've visited, I've noticed that JWs who are not well off socially/financially/physically are treated with less respect/dignity than those with a business of their own, or just a higher quality of life.

I've been to many 'gatherings' where JWs filter themselves out according to race or socio-economic standing. Many times, it was too obvious to ignore.

Though JWs claim to be different than the 'world' in every way, they often have a way of making people feel like they need to fit in. Single mothers and wives with 'unbelieving' husbands get the worst of it. Imagine a single mother who works all day, busting her ass to bring her kids up the right way, struggling to make ends meet, and decides that perhaps things will be better as a JW. She sacrifices her time, energy and even the little money she has to find her place among JWs only to find that she has become nothing more than the topic of conversation at get-togethers she is never invited to, and her children are treated with less dignity simply because they are poor or have a father who is alcoholic.

In contrast, JW families who appear to have their s--t together often get invited everywhere, and their children are never reminded of how they live. 'Regular Pioneers' get even better treatment, because they get more time on stage during local JW talks and larger conventions. They get invited to spend time or travel with others have money to burn and they get financial help from the elders.

Of course, when you talk to a JW about this, they blame it on human imperfection. But considering the image they create to the world this is inexcusable. It makes no sense for a JW to spend time luring people into their organization only to filter them out according to their position in life.

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Are people at bethel allowed to stay as long as they want ??? time limit ??

by run dont walk in

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but in general aren't most people only there a few years, is there a certain time you are allowed to be there then have to move on ???

and move on where ???.

does anyone know how the system works ???.

Latin assassin from Manhattan

When I was a JW, I practically grew up alongside many Bethelites. I never heard the work at Bethel described as 'easy' much less financially rewarding. You might not be aware that the poor souls who work their do not work for a salary like most of us do. They get paid in the form of an 'allowance' and a few dollars extra for transportation. Though most of their meals are covered for by the organization, this only applies to meals eaten in their dining room as scheduled. Furthermore, you only get breakfast on Sunday, so lunch and dinner is up to the worker or the kindness of the other JWs in the KH. That explains why most Bethelites can be found having lunch and/or dinner at someone's home on Sundays.

As for days off, well, you can forget about that because most Bethelites work on Saturdays. Given these facts, it's understandable that these JWs are not known for spending much time in field service, much less placing tons of magazines like their 'pioneers' do.

Having your own means of transportation while in Bethel is not easy either because you must be able to maintain on it on your own. I imagine they're VERY careful drivers because there is no way they could afford to paya NYC parking ticket on their 'salary'.

For those who decide to leave Bethel, the transition is often difficult because they have to apply the few skills they learned in Bethel (not many unless you were involved in construction or info. technology) to the real world. It's not like you have a pension saved up, or even a 401K so you're basically left on your own - kinda like Adam and Eve.

My experience has been that the majority of the couples that leave are married, and usually the cause is because the wife has an 'illness' which doesn't allow her to work at Bethel. Whatever the illness, I can easily assume that there is damage being caused in the relationship as well. Think about it, how would you and your wife feel about life if you had a job that required you to work 12 hours a day, 6 days a week with little or no time to cultivate your marriage without a stack of JW publications nearby?

It's no wonder that during my time as JW, Bethelite brothers were 'weary' of me at the KH. Here I was, young, not too bad looking, (and since I worked as a web developer I was loaded too) chatting with a hot 20+ year old Bethelite sister who knew nothing about life of romance, much less personal or financial fulfillment. As soon as her overworked-underappreciated hubby saw me from across the KH, he would come shuffling over and say 'honey, we should be leaving now it's getting late'. I would respond with 'need a lift?'. But of course, would a man in his position take a ride from a guy with all the above and a sports car to boot? Fine, I would hop in my ride and drive off, while this couple would take a ride from someone else instead.

This may sound far fetched, but, remember that living in NYC the way Bethelites do is HUMBLING in every sense of the word. As spiritual as they feel they might be, being in NYC has a way of making them feel like there's more to life than packing books in a factory.

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Terminator 3 very cool

by heathen in

i went and saw this the other day and thought it to be at least as good as the first 2 maybe even better with the terminatrix and the special effects being better i know i got my monies worth .

way coooooool

Latin assassin from Manhattan

T3 was garbage. Special effects can only do so much for a lousy story and this one was LOUSY. Did anyone keep track of all the explaining they did to make this cripple of a movie walk?